interview date: di sep 30. 2003
http://www.poemproducer.com/any.php?id=10



From: agf <agf@poemproducer.com>
Date: Di Sep 30, 2003 18:34:22 Europe/Berlin
To: "Jan Willem Broek" <jwbroek@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: AGF interview

hallo jan

>Thank you for doing this interview. I have enjoyed your
>album again and again last weekend. It's not from this
>world. My conclusion: you're an alien!
>But seriously: big compliments!!!

thanks so much ;)))


>1. Just for the record: can you give a short historie of:
>a. when and why you started with music?

with 13

. my parents gave me a small guitar
i wanted to be a singer songwriter and move the planet
like john lennon and yoko ono

>b. what were the most enjoyable things you run into,

love / humans / working/ creating/ water/ sushi/ fishes
preciouse solitude. privacy !
preciouse education through preciouse travelling. discovering the planet and human kind


>and the worst?

leaving somebody. ignoring somebody. create pain
ignorance. witnessing war. rassism. discrimination
daily fucked up world of entertainment and media
successfully manipulating people






>c. do you still have a job (Kitty-Yo?) beside the music?

not really. i stoped in january.
but we are friends and help each other

i just did the concept for the bpitch website

most of the time i do live music for money or
commisions like ars electronica or pompidou centre


>d. what (instruments, software) do you use to create the music?

voice. samples. mpc akai 2000xl. logic !!!!!!!
max/ msp. radial.


>e. which music was in your cd-player last month?


i pod ?
;))

+ i listened lots of german hiphop actually

i love pyranja !!!


my favoourite hitlist:

Gastspiel - Pyranja
Apropos Hip Hop - Eins Zwo
Als Ich Ein Kind Wahr. Feat. Pixie - Mayah Don
3_zur_erinnerun - mc ferris
Jagdfieber. Feat. Big P. Dj Fiks - Mayah Don
Königin Solo - Meli
so gesehen - eins zwo
rapdivision - STEINER + ???
Ich Mach Heut' Nur - Pyranja
hoert mal zu12 ! - ASD
City Blues - Beginner
Ger Intercontinental - Teamsport
Stift Her - Beginner
Wunderschön - Beginner
Lange Nacht - Pyranja
Kurz Vorm Kollaps - Teamsport


+ international hiphop

eligh
aesop rock
vertical form stuff
ceebrolistics (finnish)
rapdivision (russia)
apc
the roots

+ selfmade audio of me and my boyfriend

parts of a compilation by a small label
and club in berlin called
NBI www.neueberlinerinitiative.de

first try apparat
im version byetone
stille fleck fumie
billie herztechnik
instrumental jayrope
breath kyborg
who by fire kyborg
storage mendelson
flakes miwon
headphones static+ronnie
marco brosolo unknown


>f. all time favorites….? big influences?

john lennon
tricky
artful dodger
massive attack
bjoerk
vladislav delay
miles davis
john coltrane

i am still learning from the past


>>>>>>

my most sunshine POP hitlist !!!

you got me - (feat erkyah badu) the roots
so dazed - mc looney tunes produced by agf
talk in danger - luomo
break you off - the roots
aunt dot - lil' kim
provider zero 7 rmx - nerds
subliminal - floetry
try again - aaliyah
nothing out there - missy E + byounce
love me (rip babygirl.) - timbaland. magoo. & aaliyah.
'03 bonnie & clyde - jay-z
aya nappa - sunshine
booty man (Remix) - craig david feat. jadakiss
party - usher
miss dynamite - little deeper
the streets - weak ecome heroes


>2. You have two projects now.
>When do you decide something is suitable for Laub
>and when something for AGF?


dedicate special time to either one of the projects
laub is falling soon again



>3. When did you discover that you wanted to do
>something like AGF and why?

well. after doing 3 album with laub/ tritop/ boygroup
i wanted to do something on my own
for myself . freedom. experiment. no compromises.


>4. Do you prefer to work alone or with Laub?

i like both


>5. Live or studio?

both


>6. You also participated in Craig Armstrongs (an artists I
>would buy everything from) “As If To Nothing” album.
>A review of the Craig Armstrong album: “There is a
>minor blip in the good-times radar with "Waltz", a nice
>orchestral piece that is unfortunately marred by Antye
>Greie reciting what sounds like internet jargon in a
>German accent! Perhaps used to torture death row
>inmates, "Waltz" seems like a good idea, otherwise it's
>ultimately skippable.”

>And this is what Craig Armstrong said: "i've seen the
>future in music "


>a. How do you deal with both the negative and the positive press?

didnt know that one. that one sounds boring. is ok for me
i never got so much respect worldwide as for this piece
played amazing shows in barbican and paris
with huge orchestras and me the girl with the laptop.

critics:

usually i look and ask for feedback and critics
need that to develope

when critics are unfair or ignorant it hurts
but thats what i do


>b. And how did you met Craig Armstrong?

he knew laub from kitty-yo. and likes my voice a lot

and asked me to participate on his album
it made me astonished. he send me stuff.
i made this vocal...
on a very emotional string arrangement
i just read html code ... mostly in german
its quite challenging....

he took it ;))) so i flew to glasgow
and recorded in in the studio

it was asscool !!!

he is cool



>I mean your music is a world of differences?

??

you mean him and me ???

dont know

well he is a studied successful composer
i am a mangy street cat


>c. You said in an interview that meeting Massive Attack
>(I guess though Craig?) made a deep impression. Why?

i never met MA ????

but in the early 90ies MA was my main influence/ or more tricky


>7. Like a one-woman Einstürzende Neubauten,
>a vitual game and as inventive as Andrea Parker,
>Kit Clayton, Laurie Anderson and Tujiko Noriko
>I would say about AGF. How would you describe
>your own music (both Laub and AGF)?

agf: melodie and rythm ... are they really necessary ??? narrative. filmic. freedom.


laub: is an adult now. its grown up and is living its life
going its own ways. originally it was meant from my side a
present + dedication to the german language - A BEAUTY
which is sadly not much appreciated in its own country (history)



>8. <Westernization Completed> refers to ?

me as an east german ex communist kid...
arriving in the present world
somehow understanding and at least able to accept
and start working on it

its meant in good

did u see the artwork ????


>9. Its like creating your own small beautiful world,
>but I tends to absorb everyone and everything in it.
>Is that something you are aware of ? Or is this my problem ?

how ???

do you mean i dont involve people ???

i write for them. i sing for them. its made for lovers and people out there.

if they take the challenge and listen
i hope to make them feel home then
comfort is the plan
i want to inspire not to be careless
i want to encourage people to be unique
and not live in presets


>10. You seem to sing about common things,
>although the world you create around it with
>your music is far from common.

well i use the same stuff and gear like everybody.
its experimental music made for a certain moment in life.


>a. Do you like contrast?

much.

i like to combine to make an individual meal
take chili and honey take garam masala and kummin
take a snare and a hook and let them never meet

its a result out of ego (me)
to create deleciouse (music)
you never ate before (its super lecker)
for the people i serve

and i believe
they deserve it



>b. Are you a dreamer?

oh yes



>11. Title things:
>a. What s the message in <Westernazition Completed>?
>(I hear in the texts that you grew up in the East of Germany
>sober, uneasy, unfree ... is this you westernization?)

yes its me and approximatly 70 percent of the world who deal with
westernization... either in asia or eastern europe. south america

it refers to my own history and also to many of my friends

for instance the ukrain painter i feature in the artwork

also its my first english language work
my main alltags language right now
(i know i write a mangy cyber english)
its first time i speak in an international language
to many of my fans
people can understand now

also it refers to my political awareness

after the wall came down i was many years approx 10 ... kind of ... lost
still dont feel a home country . its just missing...
and no problem actually...
maybe its the web now ... my home or i am still trying to find it back

but it took me many years to understand and find myself in that

and how i wanne live and be and how i jugde or not etc

i grew up with one LENIN or MARX or whatever saying
if you know where you stand you ARE ( something )

out of this perspective i was nothing for one century and
i think its fuckin healthy....

now i feel able and ready to have an opinion again.

thats why... westernization... COMPLETED.


(lots to say about it)


>b. Is the freedom (of thinking, feeling, speaking) the
>most important Western good?

maybe yes.

watch: http://www.privacyinternational.org/bigbrother/



>c. What do you think is bad about the westernization?

i grew up with my parents my grandparents my country my teachers
telling me the west is evil. dirty. drug shit. bad education etc
bad for people. consume oriented ... egoistic careless
blabla they wanne own and kill for that. they give them goods
and cars and drugs
and they are braindead and buy and live for consuming

yes. they were right ;))))


(joking)

but they didnt tell that their own heros
did the same (stalin etc)

you know what i mean ???
all that we live every day



BESIDE

i found lots more. and beauty and design and knowledge
and wisdom

i traveled so much. there is good and bad everywhere
i accept that and try to make it better

i hope people get more responsible for themselfs and
keep educating themself

this world especially with internet gives such an amazing
access to knowledge... its there ... you CAN choose
or at least i can... i can order the news i want
i can find the infos i want. talk to people
everywhere in the world... i am a big fan of this

i know its all just new relatively
i know... and lost of shit around also

and we face many many problems
as a humen kind i know

i am a believer
lets face it



>12. Like an exciting trainride through an

;)))

>unknown desolate but beautiful landscape.

thanks thats beautiful

>Every window tells another story
>This is the impression I got.
>How would you descripe the way
<Westernization Completed> is built up?


it starts like an audio book
with a very intimate monologue
to a very close person

and its motivating to myself and the friend
lets make our own movies
use our brains and fantasy
and we can design our life...

the next track is for breathing
instrumental shatter
to get ready... then there is the
story going on

from failing REfailing
to leaving a place with hope
and getting up
finding new patch and get a powerful poemproducer.
hold somebody fragile... tell where i come from
and what i believe in
and in the and the frame again

lets go


>13. The first time I heard <Head Slash Bauch>
>it looks more like a kind of Heaven Deconstruction:
>all the lose material from The Young Gods melted
>into a very exciting ambientmix.

the young gods... ;)) hihi

the music was more simple processed... often recorded live
but the composition of the whole album was not easy ...
with all this 23 tracks or i had 40 and make them into the format of ONE work


><Westernization Completed> sounds more composed,
>although it sounds also very spontaneous.
> Is this something you agree with?


the production was a one year process
of editing. composing. changing things and make them fit
also it was a total one persons work.
so i didnt have to make compromises at all.
during the process i was talking and showing the work to many friends and artists
and collected their meanings. not to get traped in myself.
i am very happy with the result. it represents everything
i can give and have NOW. i know its weird. but thats it



>14. Artwork is a little in the Tujiko Noriko style?

i dont know that one
i have one bootleg of her work
i bought it for 2 euro in belgrad
and nominated her work for ars electronica prize
when i was in the jury this year

its a nice album
but i dont know her artwork style

>Whats the purpose of the amazing pictures?

in the artwork already i opened this concept. of ME ME ME and invited people.
i wanted to represent the people i work with and exchange.
trouble and love in our art.
ulyana gumeniuk is a ukrain painter living in london.
when i first time visited her in her south london studio.
i was wearing a very special skirt of uli dziallas.
fashion designer from berlin and long time partner and friend and collaborator.
ulya was painting a woman trying to kill evil thoughts
and the girl was wearing the same skirt material like me
and in her whole studio was THIS material... i just had seen last week
at the fashion designeres place. i found that quite strong connection
and we found more and more common connections.
i got more inspired by these works then by any music the last year.
same helped me studying tarkowsky and the production process
of luomo vladislav delays recent work.

i wanted to crossover this artforms and also represent this artists
in the way to give them another audience they wouldnt have usually.
my record label found the right designer kim west
to fit all my visual concepts and ideas together...

i am very grateful to all of them finally involved



>15. Sometimes the cd sounds emotionless.
> Are you like that? Or is this necessary for abstract
>electronic music?

mh i just come back from another interview
where people say .. they cant deal/ bear to be so close
and intimidate and emotional... with me in my music

too much emotions

dont know what to think about it

i think its not for every body
and not for every moment

its for moments when u are actually strong and quiet
but mainly alone or in couples ;)))

you are the 3rd couple i hear saying they listend together
thats new in my music... ;)))))


>16. Will different emotions create different music?

i think people who are unhappy/ deep make happy music
happy people make more unhappy music to seek the evil

its balancing


>17. What kind of emotion drives you the most?

sharing with somebody
love ??? curiousity (is that emotion)
seeking... for deeper
desire... for deeper understanding
fascination ???
but also compassion. in good
and confrontation. anger ... ready to fight

never thought about it
i am a terrible emotional person






>18. The music is very abstract, why did you choose
>to use a voice? Is this the poemproducer in you?

yes and the vocalist. the possibility to speak
language is the most !!!! exciting form. learning how to mean

hip hop... education ... i love it.
i am a communication junkie

but i will do instrumental music
one day ;)))

soon



>19. Is music for you a way out to express yourself

yes

>rather than making music for others to listen easily to?

definitly...

but i swear i really really fight for making it easier to people
i all the time think of them !!!
for instance with sound quality now...
or more minimalism and more space ....
to give more room for dreaming

i hope


>20. Should people get used to your music
>(like you with Angel from Schneider Tm & Ilpo)
> or do you wish that people found it easy to listen to?

. i am happy when they take their time and listen
and dedicate themselfs to my music
i hope i can give something back to them !!!!!


>21. Because there arent many women in the business
>you are in, the comparissions with other women must be
>frustrated sometimes?

its getting better

i remeber how kevin blechdom and me ones set in the train
and counted with our fingers who we all know already
and that its getting more and more girls who make their thing ;)


>22. Is the music business more emancipated than the
>“real” world?

no opposite


>23. What difference can women make in the music?

different new colours
more variaty
more emotion ??? maybe not
new touch ... to be discovered

important


>24. Why do you think so few women are into electronic
>music?

technical reservation
not much paragons/ examples
pride. fear. maybe no need to enforce things
or to sensitive to maintain and eat cheating and critics


lots of reasons i think


there have been woman always in art (camille claudel)
http://www.musee-rodin.fr/claud-e.htm
also music also electronic music eliane radigue
http://kalvos.org/radigue.html

their are just hard to find
but its getting better
the internet will help also

and all the woman who are already out there
i know many meanwhile

i am reliefed
that i am not that alien ;))))


>25. Would you rather be compared to a man or a woman
>(if it comes to music of course)?

??? meaningless
the content is deciding
and ofcourse i wouldnt like to be compared
its unnessary


>26. Whats it like for a woman like you in the musicbizz?
> I think you met quite a few emancipated, intelligent
>(wo)men (Kit Clayton, Sue, Craig, Kitty-Yo people ...).

gender doesnt matter

ellen allien is a good example
she built up her own label and community !
cool !

kitty-yo also

kit and sue are aliens too... beautyness of the planet

kit clayton is out of music business right now
coding is his choice

sue costabile is enjoying it with goldchains as sue C

its a personal desicion and CHOICE

everybody is different and has to find his own path
or the path of a group etc


>27. Are there female rolemodels for you in music?
> And male?

female:

eliane radigue
kaffe matthews
missy E

male:

my boyfriend

;)



>28. I think your cd couldnt have been made by a man


i dont know
why ???????

please explain

>(except for the fact that only you make albums like this).
> Do you agree?

i hope so. i am unique



>29. You dont seem to have the same need for recognition
>like Peaches (whom I find very good/funny) or the need
>for breaking taboos. Do you feel an affinity?



i like her personal MUCH ! i feel even close to her

i actually played the first agf concert ever in the maria
am ostbahnhof with peaches and gonzales
when they performed together like tricky and martina.
I LOOOOVED THEM

i fell in love with peaches . she was beautiful.
playing her music and having a very nice tension
between beeing deep and calm and expressive and cool.

we played infront of 30 people 2001.

since then changed a lot.
she toured approximatly 1 million shows...
and did this sex thing.
i was immediatly disappointed of that.
but i respect her !


i am the opposite

i dont use sex and drugs to promote my music
i have no such taboos. like hair on my legs
she is rebelling against things i had
and i find them not important

in east germany... everybody had unshaved legs and arm pits
and everybody showed naked... natural... people had lots of sex
there was no aids... whatever... it never took any pain away
and i couldnt witness that in pimps and whores either
which have lots of sex... i totally disagree with peaches

sex is something very beautiful and private to me
and i dont believe in : fuck the pain away

and also i find it unnessecary to promote pot
in the year 2003... (peaches on the recent SPEX cover
with spread legs. i guess spex has a 40 year old
marketing director who is close to loose his job
i really fuckin hope so... how more you can suck industry dick)

i would like to make a t.shirt
i dislike pot

but nobody would put it on a cover ;)))
it would be more revolutionary at least then this ...

but yeah...
and i have no time for that
and its not so important
and i dont need this recognition

i wish peaches the best
didnt see her for a while
she is a great musician and vocalist
its just getting harder to see her beauty
one side of her is missing



30. Do you have more to tell about AGF or Laub?

pls let people come to my website

www.poemproducer.com

there is more



>31. What are the plans for the near future?
>(Laub, AGF,...things you really would like to do)

i want to produce a piano album with craig armstrong INSTRUMENTAL hopefully
i like to produce techno. and the new pyranja record
also a very talented FUNNY new talent: mc looney tunes

and i like to make open source poems and lyrics
and be more political
and i want to work on a fiction i wrote many years ago
i got an invitation to play a cyber lady mac beth in england
and to participate in an interdisciplinare art project by an artist
rodney place placed in johannesbourg warsaw and berlin


and i would like to make a record with my boyfriend



>Anything I forgot?


maybe some more explanations to the work or production itself



i wanted to have this theme coming up again and again.

lets. go. we make our own movies.

talking to a very close friend you suddenly realize...
you can make the movie you always wanted to see . in real.
but you know its the most fragile thing to happen
and can flop any moment.
cause the danger of illusion is so close to reality.
so you collect patience respect
and understanding like shells on a shore
to overcome boundaries where the trust breaks down.

and things can go mad . i was found temporarily unsane.

also i wanted to fit myself in in this world
and give a kind of map where
i come from. deepest east germany.
we used to grow up unfree. restricted.
and also wanted to give an explantion to this record.
why i am suddenly skipping my german language
which sofar has been maybe my trademark
and now speaking with the wish to be understood
internationally where my most fans are.

i didnt want to repeat the first agf.
where i used language as abstract as possible.
cause i missed the freedom of using a voice
as an instrument without adding
such an attention to the meaning.
for me it was a liberation back then !

beside some song or lyric based compositions
like <private birds> or <contemporary westernized>
<you.stop> or <we make our own movies>
i used a special technic for the new record

i collected thousands of words and expressions
out of the web. mailinglists. conversations with friends etc
without a sense making connection i recorded them into audio
just reading or expressing all this bits and pieces
from so many different sources
and i layered them again and again.
then i started to compose the tracks.
so suddenly it would come out a piece.
a direction ... i kept on editing... abitrary principle
and then forming something i couldnt PRETHINK
so i was composing with A text/ meaning
and it wasnt clear what would remain.
it changed the meaning through editing
and using the CONTENT like samples.

for me beautiful things happened.
connections of words or feelings
i wouldnt have come across logically

most i gave freedom to this technic in REfail and poemproducer
other tracks i added song related structures.
or play with known technics in music
like choruses or melodies or breaks.

also i didnt want to use loops at this record.
i think there is no loop
i played most tracks live into logic
totally ignoring the sequencer
so the tempo and the beats are fucked up all the time
i hoped to create a different mood with that.
more lifely building a contradiction
to the digital way of producing.

also my aim was to built dynamic in this music.
i rarely witness this in contemporary music.
produced by powerbooks
and missing dynamic is the most annoying audible trap.


>Do you have (downloadable) pressphoto's I can use?

http://www.poemproducer.com/hires.php




CAN I PLS PUBLISH OUR "CONVERATION" ON MY WEBSITE ???
PLS ????

it took me 4 hours ...
and i would like to give that to interested

would be very nice


thanks much
agf